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zencat
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'Quantum of Solace' to drop the famous introduction as well as 'shaken, not stirred' line


It be true.

We've been expecting you, Mr... er...? New Bond blockbuster drops the catchphrases

The new Bond blockbuster 'Quantum of Solace' drops the catchphrases to return to the spirit of Ian Fleming's books

By Nicholas Barber and Andrew Johnson
Sunday, 21 September 2008

His name is Bond, James Bond: just don't expect him to introduce himself. For the first time in his 22 screen outings, Britain's best- known secret agent will not utter the words of introduction that have thrilled fans and appalled master criminals for 46 years.

Nor in his next adventure, Quantum of Solace, released in November, does 007 utter the other classic one-liner – "shaken not stirred" – when ordering his martini, according to the director, Marc Forster.

"There was a 'Bond, James Bond' in the script," he said. "There are several places where we shot it as well, but it never worked as we hoped. I just felt we should cut it out, and Barbara Broccoli and Michael Wilson [the film's producers] agreed, and Daniel [Craig, who plays Bond] agreed, too. It's nice to be open-minded about the Bond formula. You can always go back to them later on."

It is another radical departure for Bond who, in his last film, Casino Royale, found himself stripped of many on-screen staples.

Gone were the unfeasible gadgets on which he could always rely in a tight spot. The boffin who created them in the basement of the MI6 building, Q, played in the past by Desmond Llewellyn and John Cleese, was also therefore eliminated, along with Miss Moneypenny and her flirtatious banter. Bond even briefly abandoned his high-performance motor to drive a Ford Mondeo before reverting to an Aston Martin.

It is all part of a deliberate attempt to bring the agent with a licence to kill into the 21st century – the producers declined the film rights to Sebastian Faulks's Bond homage, Devil May Care, last month because it was set in the 1960s – yet also to take him back to his 1950s roots.

The move is welcomed by fans who have seen the films veer away from how Bond's creator, Ian Fleming, originally envisaged his cold-blooded hero.

Graham Rye, who edits the online 007 Magazine said that Craig, who made his debut in last year's Casino Royale, is much closer to Fleming's vision.

"The Bond films had become tired and needed reinvigorating," he said. "Rather than going away from Fleming I think the producers have gone back to him."

Mr Rye added that the famous ingredients of the film, such as Q and Moneypenny, had only featured once or twice in the books. Nor does he make a habit of ordering martinis or introducing himself.

"His announcing of himself had become a bit corny," he added. "Casino Royale gets back to the spirit of the books, rather than all the silliness."

Ajay Chowdhury, who edits the Bond fan club magazine Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, added that excising the famous lines was unlikely to upset Bond fans.

"The producers have been mixing and matching the famous Bond tropes – such as the theme song and the gun-barrel sequence," he said. "But this time there is a theme song by Jack White and Alicia Keys. If this line of script is not in there it's not going to undo the foundations of Bond. The fans didn't miss Moneypenny or Q. Bond is the only British character with worldwide resonance now, apart from Harry Potter. The producers are paying more attention to psychology and relationships, as well as adventure.

"Quantum of Solace picks up from Casino Royale, which was a really good thriller first and a good Bond movie second."

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertai...ses-936999.html




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Matt_13
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Nice find zencat. Not really a huge surprise to me, don't mind that it won't be in there one bit.



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It is fine by me.

The article incorrectly states this is the first time in 22 films for Bond not to do this. Bond had refrained from the "Bond, James Bond" line in other films too. Namely From Russia With Love, Thunderball and You Only Live Twice. Silly article.




 
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Sounds like there was nowhere where it fit. Good on them for not trying to shoehorn it in somewhere.

If I had not been told, I probably wouldn't have even noticed.




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Good news. thumbup.gif



 
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Anyway, this is not the first time: remember From Russia With Love, Thunderball and You Only Live Twice.

Although
an Imdb bloke said that the teaser beguins with the ending of Casino Royale, so perhaps we hear the "Bond, James Bond" from Casino Royale





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QUOTE(zencat @ 20 September 2008 - 19:28) *
For the first time in his 22 screen outings, Britain's best- known secret agent will not utter the words of introduction that have thrilled fans and appalled master criminals for 46 years.


Derp!



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QUOTE(Nicolas Suszczyk @ 21 September 2008 - 02:39) *
Anyway, this is not the first time: remember From Russia With Love, Thunderball and You Only Live Twice.

Although
an Imdb bloke said that the teaser beguins with the ending of Casino Royale, so perhaps we hear the "Bond, James Bond" from Casino Royale


Would you put your life on the line based on what "an Imbd bloke said"?

The bloke was full of [censored].
 
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Ah, very good. Down with Bond Formula, Up with Better Bond Movie!

This post has been edited by Binyamin: 21 September 2008 - 03:05




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What the [censored] is this [censored]!? Hope this is not true! That's the only thing I'd love to hear when I watch a 007 movie with my cousin frown.gif

They're screwing the series.. No Q, no Moneypenny, No Introduction, No Martini.. ¿what's next? No Aston, no Omega and no 'James Bond Will Return' text at the end of the credits?

I'm starting to think Craig will be the last Bond, with a definitively retiring 007 on Bond 24, or even worse, he getting shot.

This post has been edited by BlackFire: 21 September 2008 - 03:09




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Bond: Fields, when is the next flight to London?
Fields: Tomorrow morning
Bond: Well then we have all night!

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QUOTE (BlackFire @ 20 September 2008 - 23:07) *
What the [censored] is this [censored]!? Hope this is not true! That's the only thing I'd love to hear when I watch a 007 movie with my cousin frown.gif


BlackFire, is that really all that matters to you in a Bond film?

Suggestion, put the "Bond, James Bond" scene from Casino Royale on repeat. There. You'll have your ideal Quantum of Solace.

A lot of us would rather have, you know, a really damn good Bond movie.

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QUOTE(freemo @ 21 September 2008 - 12:04) *
Sounds like there was nowhere where it fit. Good on them for not trying to shoehorn it in somewhere.

If I had not been told, I probably wouldn't have even noticed.


Exactly. And it sounds like there might be some deleted scenes to discover in a few years time for the DVD re-release of QoS to coincide with Bond 23.



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QUOTE(BlackFire @ 21 September 2008 - 00:07)