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3 February 2008 - 18:33
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Hello! I just found this old article from La Reppublica (an Italian newspaper). It dates back August 2007, BUT there are details about the chase in Siena that might have slipped our minds. Here is the most interesting paragraph (English translation below): QUOTE La fuga iniziale di Bond parte dalle cave di marmo di Carrara per proseguire nei vicoli di Siena prima a bordo di una Aston Martin, poi a piedi, con una serie di acrobazie fra i tetti. Ma quando si è trattato di far scendere gli attori nei "bottini", gli acquedotti sotterranei di Siena scavati nel tufo, il Comune si è imposto, vietando ogni ripresa. "I produttori potranno fare una perlustrazione e prendere appunti - fanno sapere dall'ufficio del sindaco - ma poi dovranno ricostruire i bottini in studio". http://www.repubblica.it/2007/08/sezioni/c...bond-palio.html Here is the translation: QUOTE Bond's initial escape from the marble quarries of Carrara, then continues in the narrow streets of Siena, first riding an Aston Martin, then by feet, with a series of stunts on the rooftops. But but it was question of taking the actors down in the "bottini", the underground aqueducts of Siena excavated in the tuf, the municipality forbid any shooting there. "The producers will be allowed to scout and take notes, says the major's office, but then they will have to rebuild the bottini on set". Of course, it's quite ancient, and the script might have changed since August, but as some details seem to have been verifies since, the other bits could prove to be true too. Interestingly enough, Cararra and its famous marble quarries, even if located in Tuscany, are quite far from Siena (about 130-150 km west-northwest of Siena, I think). So using the Aston Martin to "escape" to Siena would make sense. Those marble quarries could offer a beautiful scenery: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Marble_q...-Carrara_Region It's a little weird for me to post in the spoiler section, because I decided to stay spoiler free (as much as possible), but oh well... I was nterested in the Italian locations  But now I get back to my "spoiler free" skins on the forum, so forgive me if I don't write much/any more in this thread, and feel free to PM for any question.   "Never will we find the truth if we content ourselves with what is already known." (GoT) |
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Lt. Commander Group: Veterans Posts: 1487 Enlisted: 2 May 2007 Agent No.: 0010891 |
3 February 2008 - 19:01
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I just found some new informations: Carrara really seems to be a QoS location, according to some recent Italian sites:
QUOTE Lo staff di produzione (Mestiere Cinema del veneziano Guido Cerasuolo) ha voluto curare in modo particolare i rapporti con le realtà locali, muovendosi con modalità ispirate al rispetto e alla condivisione dei passaggi per l'approdo delle troupe nelle realtà toscane. In una dichiarazione rilasciata al Tirreno il 25 ottobre scorso, in merito alla location di Carrara, Cerasuolo aveva detto: «Noi gireremo scene molto spettacolari in una zona dove la gente lavora. Per questo vogliamo avere le massime garanzie che tutto sia regolare visto che entriamo a casa della gente. Nel sindaco Zubbani abbiamo trovato un interlocutore perfetto: ci ha già fornito tutte le cartine delle cave che ci saranno utili per studiare al meglio l’inseguimento». La Nazione di Carrara, in un articolo a firma di Cristina Lorenzi dell'edizione odierna, racconta particolari dell'ambientazione tra le Apuane: dal Passo del Vestito ad Altagnana, con inseguimenti nella fascinosa cava di Fantiscritti, fino a Ravaccione e alla stazione del Tarnone. "Sbucato dal tunnel di Miseglia - si lòegge sulla Nazionae - Bondi arriva direttamente a Siena". (07 Dec. 2007)http://www.intoscana.it/intoscana/informar...amp;language=it Nota: they mention a tunnel  QUOTE CARRARA. Nessun giallo. Uscirà nelle sale cinematografiche italiane il prossimo 14 novembre e si intitolerà “Quantum of Solace” - “Sospiro di sollievo”, il prossimo film di 007, che avrà di nuovo come protagonista Daniel Craig nei panni di James Bond. Ma, soprattutto, ci saranno le scene girate nelle cave di marmo di Carrara. Lo conferma il produttore, Guido Cerasuolo di Mestiere Cinema, che elimina così il mistero sulla location apuana «scomparsa» nell’Ansa (e nel reportage sul quotidiano la Stampa) della presentazione londinese del 22º capitolo della saga dell’agente segreto più famoso del mondo. Carrara farà da sfondo alle avventure dell’affascinante Daniel Cragi: «Siamo d’accordo con il sindaco inizieremo a girare ad aprile» conferma Cerasuolo. (28 Jan. 2008)[...] Ma, è un dato di fatto, che alla presentazione londinese del film alla stampa si sia parlato solo di Siena, e Carrara e le sue cave non siano mai state neppure menzionate. [...] E Carrara? Per Guido Cerasuolo di Mestiere cinema, che nei mesi scorsi si è incontrato più volte con il sindaco Angelo Zubbani per studiare le location italiane del film, non esiste nessun «caso». Quelle scene, ossia l’inseguimento sulle strade di cava, si faranno a Carrara. http://www.cosmave.it/news_dettaglio.php?id=937 I can give a quick translation if this is really new for you and you can't understand, but as I don't read all the news about QoS, I'm not sure this is really breaking news? "Never will we find the truth if we content ourselves with what is already known." (GoT) |
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Commander Group: Veterans Posts: 7312 Enlisted: 23 October 2001 From: Chicago, USA Agent No.: 00332 |
3 February 2008 - 19:28
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It's not breaking news, but it helps make sense of all the things we've heard (how, precisely, the rooftop chase and car chase are connected).
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Lt. Commander Group: Veterans Posts: 1487 Enlisted: 2 May 2007 Agent No.: 0010891 |
3 February 2008 - 19:42
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Thanks for this, Harmsway!
About Siena, here is another recent article (undated, but with mention of the QoS title), with many details about the exact locations in Siena. QUOTE Le riprese, che si concentreranno nei primi giorni di aprile, verranno precedute da faraonici allestimenti in Salicotto. Sono previste alcune rocambolesche scene di inseguimenti sui tetti antichi della città. Interessati dieci condomini fra Rialto e vicolo dell’Oro. Qui da giorni fervono i contatti con gli abitanti per le necessarie autorizzazioni. Per molti giorni infatti ci saranno difficoltà di posteggio nell’intera area, ma la produzione sembra essere convincente e il fascino dell’intramontabile 007 fa capitolare anche i più tenaci difensori della quiete cittadina. Forse proprio a seguire alla scena presentata alla conferenza stampa di Londra, la fuga di 007 riprenderà sui tetti storici di Siena, meravigliosamente senza antenne grazie alla cablatura che permise di eliminare le antiestetiche antenne tv dallo skyline della nostra città. I tetti verranno tutti praticamente ricostruiti, per permettere ai grandi macchinari da ripresa di trovare appoggio e sostegno. La corsa mozzafiato verrà ripresa dal cielo e da tralicci che verranno appositamente costruiti. Dall’11 febbraio inizieranno gli allestimenti, che si protrarranno fino ai primi di aprile. Poi, è scritto nei contratti, quindi giorni di tempo per ripristinare tutto. Ma niente è lasciato al caso. Contratti, assicurazioni, perizie, la produzione sa benissimo che Siena è un tesoro da trattare con il dovuto rispetto. In fondo a via del Rialto, angolo via del Vannello, verrà addirittura costruito un palazzo intero. http://www.quotidiano.net/edizioni_locali/...C6.html&t=N Here is a link to a map of Siena, pinpointing the via del Rialto: http://maps.google.fr/maps?hl=fr&q=via...&iwloc=addr This post has been edited by MkB: 3 February 2008 - 19:46 "Never will we find the truth if we content ourselves with what is already known." (GoT) |
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Commander Group: Veterans Posts: 4601 Enlisted: 25 February 2006 From: Leeds, UK Agent No.: 006263 |
3 February 2008 - 20:44
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This is all very interesting, thanks for posting, and helpful in our attempts to piece together how the movie will open. I'll try and cobble together some sort of translation of the key parts if I have a moment later this evening.
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3 February 2008 - 20:47
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Thanks Vauxhaull! Translating is always time-consuming, I appreciate your help
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Commander Group: Veterans Posts: 4601 Enlisted: 25 February 2006 From: Leeds, UK Agent No.: 006263 |
4 February 2008 - 01:56
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This is the translation I have come up with of the most recent article posted:
The filming, focussed upon the start of April, will be preceded by enormous preparations in Salicotto. Some extraordinary chase scenes across the ancient rooftops of the city are expected. The ten condominiums between Rialto and Vicolo dell’Oro will be affected. Contacts have spent days here making preparations with the inhabitants for the necessary permits. For many days, there will be difficulty parking in the entire area, but the production seems to be convincing and the timeless fascination with 007 has quietened the most tenacious of opponents. Perhaps directly following on from the scene presented at the press conference in London [the art gallery explosion], the flight of 007 will resume on the historical rooftops of Siena, wonderfully without television antennas thanks to the wiring that allowed the unattractive antennas to be eliminated from the skyline of our city. The roofs will be practically reconstructed in order to allow large machinery to find support for filming. The race will be breathtakingly filmed from the sky upon specially constructed trusses. Preparations will start on 11 February and last until early April. Then, it is written in the contracts, it will take only a few days to film everything. But nothing is left to chance. Contracts, assurances, skills - the production knows that Siena is a treasure to be treated with due respect. At the bottom of the Rialto, on the corner of Vannello, they will even build an entire palace. |
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Lt. Commander Group: Veterans Posts: 1487 Enlisted: 2 May 2007 Agent No.: 0010891 |
4 February 2008 - 11:42
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Nice work Vauxhall!
 Here is the translation of the most recent article about the marble quarries in Carrara (posted just before the one translated by Vauxhall) CARRARA. No kidding. On November 14th, the latest 007 film, titled "Quantum of Solace" (which translates in Italian "Sospiro di Sollievo"), will hit the silver screen in Italy, with Daniel Craig as James Bond again. But above all, there will be scenes shot in the marble quarries of Carrara. The producer Guido Cerasuolo (Mestiere Cinema) confirms this, brushing aside the mistery about the Apua district location that "vanished" in ANSA (and in the coverage published in the newspaper "La Stampa") from the Lodon press conference of the 22nd episode of the saga of the world's most famous secret agent. Carrara will be the setting of the adventures of the fascinating Daniel Craig: "We agree with the mayor, we will begin shooting in April", confirms Cerasuolo. (28 Jan. 2008) http://www.cosmave.it/news_dettaglio.php?id=937 This post has been edited by MkB: 4 February 2008 - 11:43 "Never will we find the truth if we content ourselves with what is already known." (GoT) |
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Lt. Commander Group: Veterans Posts: 1487 Enlisted: 2 May 2007 Agent No.: 0010891 |
4 February 2008 - 12:05
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And here is the last translation. Interesting article for the many details about the car chase (one could certainly come up with a map, from these informations)
The production staff (Mestiere Cinema of the Venitian Guido Cerasuolo) wanted to handle with a particular care the relations with local facts, acting in a respectful manner toward the Tuscan sites. In a declaration to "Il Tirreno", on October 25th [2007], about the Carrara location, Cerasuolo said: "We will shoot very spectacular scenes, in a zone where people are working. For this, we want to have the maximum guaranties that everything is regular, given that we are entering into people's houses. With the mayor, Zubbani, we found a perfect interlocutor: he has already provided us with all the maps of the quarries that we'll need to prepare the chase for the best". The "Nazione di Carrara", in an article by Cristina Lorenzi in todays edition, gives details about the Apua district setting: from the Passo del Vestito to Altagnana, with a chase in the fascinating quarry of Fantiscritti, up to Ravaccione and the Tarnone station. "From the Miseglia tunnel - along the Nazionale road - Bond arrives directly in Siena" (07 Dec. 2007) http://www.intoscana.it/intoscana/informar...amp;language=it "Never will we find the truth if we content ourselves with what is already known." (GoT) |
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Lt. Commander Group: Veterans Posts: 1487 Enlisted: 2 May 2007 Agent No.: 0010891 |
4 February 2008 - 12:49
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Here is my try at mapping the Tuscan chase! It's a zipped KML file, to be used in GoogleEarth.
Enjoy! Please, is it just that I didn't get the news (which is quite possible), or is this Carrara quarries location recent news?
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Lt. Commander Group: Veterans Posts: 2910 Enlisted: 2 July 2002 Agent No.: 00823 |
4 February 2008 - 13:04
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I'm looking forward to Craig getting behind the wheel in his first real car chase as Bond.
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Lt. Commander Group: Veterans Posts: 1487 Enlisted: 2 May 2007 Agent No.: 0010891 |
4 February 2008 - 13:08
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One more bit of information: Ravaccione, Fantiscritti and Tarnone are set along the "Ferrovia Marmifera Privata di Carrara", a private XIXth industrial railway line (abandoned since 1964), which was used to convey marble from the quarries, on its 22km. This railway line, because of the difficult setting, has many impressive viaducts and long tunnels. Maybe the chase has some links with this line, apart from the quarries?
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