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Commander RNVR Group: Commanding Officers Enlisted: 26 June 2003 From: New York |
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Now on the CBn main page...
-----UPDATE-----
UPDATE - POLLS ![]() |
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Lieutenant Group: Crew Enlisted: 22 November 2006 From: en route to Lilly Library |
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Thanks for Posting this so quickly.
In addition to the product placement Lots you've referenced, there are several other pieces that I find of interest as a James Bond 007 fan and watch collector here. Lot #298 is an actual Omega 2531.80 Seamaster worn by Pierce Brosnan during the filming of Tomorrow Never Dies. (Every so often a Post will pop up by a fan on one Forum or another insisting that Mr. Brosnan actually wore the mid-sized version of this watch, or that it was really the quartz model featured in the film; so this is a nice piece of evidence toward actual model authentication.) Lot #296 is the Omega 2907.50.91 Planet Ocean "Casino Royale" Limited Series number 0001 of 5,007 produced. Interesting on a number of fronts, the first being the number of 0s preceding single-digit pieces (some have speculated that numbers one through nine would have had only two 0s, thus making "007/5007" a part of the series). Additionally, as collectors debate the value of having one particular number versus another (eg, "Is '1007/5007' likely to be more valuable than '2518/5007'?"), the amount fetched by this auction will be a good point of reference. Lot #297 is the Omega 2226.80.00 Seamaster "James Bond" Limited Series number 0001 of 10,007 produced. My comments here parallel those made above for the 2907.50.91, except that, of course, we're talking about almost twice as many pieces in the market. In all cases, look for the "See high definition image" text below the pictures: Click on these links for modem burners that are absolutely worth the download time! ![]() |
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Commander RNVR Group: Commanding Officers Enlisted: 26 June 2003 From: New York |
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Additionally, as collectors debate the value of having one particular number versus another (eg, "Is '1007/5007' likely to be more valuable than '2518/5007'?"), the amount fetched by this auction will be a good point of reference. Interesting. Wonder what it wil go for. ![]() |
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Commander RNVR Group: Commanding Officers Enlisted: 18 September 2002 From: USA |
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I will be interested to see what these go for as well.
Perhaps I don't know enough about the world of watches, but to me, runs of 5000, and especially 10000 are hardly "limited." Anytime a run of something reaches 4 digits, I don't think the term applies. ![]() ![]() |
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Lieutenant Group: Crew Enlisted: 22 November 2006 From: en route to Lilly Library |
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Additionally, as collectors debate the value of having one particular number versus another (eg, "Is '1007/5007' likely to be more valuable than '2518/5007'?"), the amount fetched by this auction will be a good point of reference. Interesting. Wonder what it wil go for.Off the top of my head, seems like I've read that one of the non-modified filming Omega Seamasters worn by Pierce Brosnan sold for $20,000 some years back. On the high end, the “specially adapted Rolex wristwatch, Ref: 5513, case No. 2683776” modified by Syd Cain for Live and Let Die sold at a Christie’s auction in 2001 for $41,992 (Lot #145). The actual film prop Omega Planet Ocean from Casino Royale has too many variables associated w/ it for me to say which end is the closer price point. It's certainly more than "stock," and, indeed, the, um, "weathering" is actually quite impressive in my mind. (And personally quite incredible to see as compared to the initial images from production that were given to me over a year ago now!) Add to that the popularity of Casino Royale. Yet it doesn't benefit from the same "age mistique" as the Live and Let Die Rolex by simple age. I will be interested to see what these go for as well.... Perhaps I don't know enough about the world of watches, but to me, runs of 5000, and especially 10000 are hardly "limited." ... Anytime a run of something reaches 4 digits, I don't think the term applies. As far as when "something reaches 4 digits" lacking a certain "limited" status, you are in good company w/in "the world of watches" from what I've seen. My interest in the 2907.50.91 was based more on the James Bond 007 connection than any so-called "limited" status. Of course, it's nice that there was some threshold set for production, and that it's not being produced ad infinitum (like the 2531.80 Seamaster seemed shaping up to be!). I actually thought about suggesting a POLL here. Along the lines of "What sort of a 'sacrifice' would you be willing to make to own the PO that Daniel Craig wore here?" Some folks might not even be willing to pay retail for it (given it's clearly not a watch to wear). Others would be willing to drive a lesser class car or re-mortgage their homes for it. Where do your interests fall? ![]() |
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Commander RNVR Group: Commanding Officers Enlisted: 26 June 2003 From: New York |
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Thanks for the info! It was more of random curiousity on my part.
I'd be interested in running such a poll if you perhaps wanted to send me a personal message with the options or post them here. ![]() |
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Lieutenant Group: Crew Enlisted: 27 February 2005 From: Central Pennsylvania |
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I believe Brosnan wore a Quartz version on the Seamaster in GE. Maybe that's were some people are getting confused as to what he wore in TND.?
Wonder why they didn't at least clean the dirt off the PO? I may have to bid on these... This post has been edited by SecretAgent007: 12 March 2007 - 11:37 ![]() Now you can tell about the one that got away
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Lieutenant Group: Crew Enlisted: 22 November 2006 From: en route to Lilly Library |
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I believe Brosnan wore a Quartz version on the Seamaster in GE. Maybe that's were some people are getting confused as to what he wore in TND.? .... It's always been my understanding as well that Mr. Brosnan wore an Omega 2541.80 Seamaster (quartz) in GoldenEye. Yet Omega SA has not acknowledged or referenced this on it website for quite some time, ironically. The "confusion" to which I was referring has to do w/ the mid-sized versions of each of these watches, the Omega 2561.80 as the smaller alternative to the 2541.80, for example. Again, this is not something I see as a big deal, but it has been raised as an issue ~ which makes it of interest. ... Wonder why they didn't at least clean the dirt off the PO? .... Um-- yikes!. To me this begs the question of where one draws the line. Do you replace the strap if it is damaged? the crystal if it is scratched? The incredible thing to me in looking at the hi-res scans of both film watches in this auction is the wear one can see on them. Part of what you'll be paying for when you bid (should you decide to go forward with your plans in that regard At least insofar as I'm concerned. There are folks today who regularly complain that in sending their vintage Rolex watches to the OEM for service, the watches come back w/ updated dials, et cetera. To them this compromises the integrity of the piece. So much more so, in my opinion, with a film property watch. ![]() |
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Lieutenant Group: Crew Enlisted: 27 February 2005 From: Central Pennsylvania |
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I wouldn't consider removing the dirt/caked mud, as anything other than cleaning the watch. I don't consider dirt as wear myself. Cleaning the watch is far from replacing worn parts.
If you look at closeups on Goldeneye, you can see that the date window is located in the correct position for the quartz version. I don't see how anyone thinks it, or any of the Broz Omega's are the mid sized version. This post has been edited by SecretAgent007: 12 March 2007 - 17:06 ![]() Now you can tell about the one that got away
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Lieutenant Group: Crew Enlisted: 22 November 2006 From: en route to Lilly Library |
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I wouldn't consider removing the dirt/caked mud, as anything other than cleaning the watch. I don't consider dirt as wear myself. Cleaning the watch is far from replacing worn parts.... Like I wrote in my blog last March, I don't think this is mere "dirt" and/or "caked mud." I think this particular watch was dressed: "And, thanks to detailing by the wardrobe, props, and/or make-up teams, road-wear nicely highlights the trapezoid shaping on its rubber strap between the case lugs." To me, that makes this as integral as any other "modification" ~ altho I certainly respect that others' opinions may differ. ... If you look at closeups on Goldeneye, you can see that the date window is located in the correct position for the quartz version. I don't see how anyone thinks it, or any of the Broz Omega's are the mid sized version. Found it pretty hard to confuse the two sizes myself as well. And, while under other circumstances it might be tempting to write this off as a wild notion, the fact of the matter is that this claim comes from a highly respected source on one of the dedicated Omega Forums. Just goes to show that nobody's perfect.... ![]() |
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Commander Group: Veterans Enlisted: 3 December 2002 From: Bristol, TN |
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I'll enter with a starting bid of $7 for Craig's Seamaster.
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