 Views on 'A View To A Kill', 20 years since the premiere of AVTAK |
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Commander RNVR Group: Commanding Officers Enlisted: 26 June 2003 From: New York  |
23 May 2005 - 02:14
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From CBn's main page...
   ~ Nobody Knows Me Like You Know Me ~ 'People Look Up. Things Fall Down. And When It Rains, It Pours' Moving at the speed of life, we are bound to collide with each other ♦ ♦ ♦ Are You Ready To Go? ♦ ♦ ♦ |
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Commander Group: Veterans Enlisted: 21 May 2003 From: Las Vegas, Nevada |
23 May 2005 - 02:26
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20 years later we find ourselves in the same predicament: A tired series bereft of energy and creativity, an aging on his way out star and uncertainty...I hope a Dalton type star and TLD type film is in store for us.
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Commander Group: Veterans Enlisted: 8 February 2003 From: At the Monsoon Palace with Magda ;) |
23 May 2005 - 02:34
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QUOTE(Tarl_Cabot @ 22 May 2005 - 20:26) 20 years later we find ourselves in the same predicament: A tired series bereft of energy and creativity, an aging on his way out star and uncertainty...I hope a Dalton type star and TLD type film is in store for us.  Agreed, Tarl_Cabot though I do like the first 90 minutes of Die Another Day more than many on this forum and my initially negative views on A View To A Kill have softened somewhat though I still think it's the weakest Roger Moore Bond. I hope Casino Royale turns out to be for the 2000s what The Living Daylights was for the 1980s.  Proud defender of Timothy Dalton, Jane Seymour, Teri Hatcher, Kristina Wayborn, Maryam d'Abo, Karin Dor, Caroline Munro, Catherine Schell, Caterina Murino, Lewis Gilbert, The Living Daylights, Moonraker, Thunderball, Octopussy, and You Only Live Twice . President of the "Catherine Deneuve should have been a Bond girl" and "Lee Horsley/Matt Houston should have played Felix Leiter" Societies Dalton's Bond is Craig's Bond 20 years ahead of his time |
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Commander RNR Group: Veterans Reserve Enlisted: 7 March 2003 From: Bronx,NY |
23 May 2005 - 03:05
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I can't believe 20 years have passed since I saw AVTAK opening day at the Loews Astor Plaza in Times Square. Boy, how time flies! I still enjoy the film as much as I did back then.
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Commander Group: Veterans Enlisted: 13 December 2004 From: Buckinghamshire |
23 May 2005 - 08:03
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QUOTE(PrinceKamalKhan @ 23 May 2005 - 03:34) QUOTE(Tarl_Cabot @ 22 May 2005 - 20:26) 20 years later we find ourselves in the same predicament: A tired series bereft of energy and creativity, an aging on his way out star and uncertainty...I hope a Dalton type star and TLD type film is in store for us. Agreed, Tarl_Cabot though I do like the first 90 minutes of Die Another Day more than many on this forum and my initially negative views on A View To A Kill have softened somewhat though I still think it's the weakest Roger Moore Bond. I hope Casino Royale turns out to be for the 2000s what The Living Daylights was for the 1980s. I'll up the ante, I hope Casino Royale is to 2006 what Goldfinger was to 1964! Great article... can't believe it's been 20 years. This may well be the first Bond I saw in the cinema, although the first I remember is Moonraker (a matine).  |
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Commander RNVR Group: Commanding Officers Enlisted: 26 June 2003 From: New York |
23 May 2005 - 11:10
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~ Nobody Knows Me Like You Know Me ~ 'People Look Up. Things Fall Down. And When It Rains, It Pours' Moving at the speed of life, we are bound to collide with each other ♦ ♦ ♦ Are You Ready To Go? ♦ ♦ ♦ |
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Commander RNVR Group: Commanding Officers Enlisted: 9 January 2002 From: Edmonton, Canada |
23 May 2005 - 11:34
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Here's to the most underrated Bond film of them all!
A fine film that's not without its flaws, but deserves much more credit than people give it. It has some of the best action sequences in the whole series and for that, I rank it highly, but it also proves to be two hours of good fun.  |
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Commander GCMG Group: Veterans Reserve. Enlisted: 5 June 2001 From: Lagrimas Negras |
23 May 2005 - 16:28
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Has it really been 20 years? My goodness.
I like AVTAK. Maybe it's not the best Bond, but it has some good moments, it's Roger, and I have fond memories connected to this film and that time in my life. I even went to the AVTAK world premiere in San Francisco. That was a great evening for a young Bond fan. Happy 20th, AVTAK. 
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Commander CMG Group: Veterans Enlisted: 13 May 2002 |
23 May 2005 - 16:41
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QUOTE(zencat @ 23 May 2005 - 16:28) Maybe it's not the best Bond No, nowhere near the best, but nothing remotely like the worst, either. Not really all that much wrong with it, IMO, and, yes, it is great fun. The last of the good old-fashioned "fun" Bond films, actually. 
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Commander Group: Veterans Enlisted: 20 July 2002 From: Washington D.C.. USA |
23 May 2005 - 16:46
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Definately up there in my top 5 of Bond movies. I love AVTAK!
 Robert Brown was Admiral Hargreaves in TSWLM, OP, AVTAK, TLD and LTK damnit Enforcer, Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Roger Moore Proud defender of Barbara Bach, Carole Bouquet, Barbara Carrera, Maryam D'Abo, A View to a Kill, Never Say Never Again and The Spy Who Loved Me. |
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Commander CMG Group: Veterans Enlisted: 13 May 2002 |
23 May 2005 - 16:56
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QUOTE(Loomis @ 23 May 2005 - 16:41) The last of the good old-fashioned "fun" Bond films, actually. Just to expand on that on a little, a strong streak of miserablism entered the series with the Dalton era and never really went away. A VIEW TO A KILL was the last film in which we had a Bond not tormented by "his demons" and/or embarking on a "personal" mission. I really wish we could once again see a Bond flick in the MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN/SPY WHO LOVED ME/MOONRAKER/OCTOPUSSY/AVTAK vein, but I somehow doubt we ever will. |
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Commander RNR Group: Veterans Reserve Enlisted: 14 December 2001 From: USA |
23 May 2005 - 17:21
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QUOTE(Loomis @ 23 May 2005 - 11:56) QUOTE(Loomis @ 23 May 2005 - 16:41) The last of the good old-fashioned "fun" Bond films, actually. Just to expand on that on a little, a strong streak of miserablism entered the series with the Dalton era and never really went away. A VIEW TO A KILL was the last film in which we had a Bond not tormented by "his demons" and/or embarking on a "personal" mission. I really wish we could once again see a Bond flick in the MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN/SPY WHO LOVED ME/MOONRAKER/OCTOPUSSY/AVTAK vein, but I somehow doubt we ever will. Precisely why I favor Gerard Butler. He can do "fun" quite well. And he could also be "Bourne-like" (i.e., straight-faced [censored]-kicking). Which is why I'm surprised you're so down on him, Loom.  'It reads better than it lives.' |
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Commander CMG Group: Veterans Enlisted: 13 May 2002 |
23 May 2005 - 17:28
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QUOTE(Bon-san @ 23 May 2005 - 17:21) QUOTE(Loomis @ 23 May 2005 - 11:56) QUOTE(Loomis @ 23 May 2005 - 16:41) The last of the good old-fashioned "fun" Bond films, actually. Just to expand on that on a little, a strong streak of miserablism entered the series with the Dalton era and never really went away. A VIEW TO A KILL was the last film in which we had a Bond not tormented by "his demons" and/or embarking on a "personal" mission. I really wish we could once again see a Bond flick in the MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN/SPY WHO LOVED ME/MOONRAKER/OCTOPUSSY/AVTAK vein, but I somehow doubt we ever will. Precisely why I favor Gerard Butler. He can do "fun" quite well. And he could also be "Bourne-like" (i.e., straight-faced [censored]-kicking). Which is why I'm surprised you're so down on him, Loom. Yeah, I guess it seems a bit contradictory: I champion Owen and Craig while calling for lighthearted, MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN-type films.  As for Butler, I don't think I've seen anything of his apart from the Lara Croft movie. I thought he was quite good in that and definitely had Bond potential, but somehow I don't see him as either a brave or an exciting choice. He'd "do", I guess, but I just can't get enthusiastic about the idea of him as 007 (I feel the same about the likes of Gruffudd and McMahon). Maybe I should check out more of his work.
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